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comfortable with the investigation that is taking place in the petraeus affair and do you believe that the fbi should have notified congress earlier about this matter? >> thank you everybody. thank you, everybody. >> senator elect flake, do you agree with senator mcconnell? >> did you get your official result, senator flake? is it senator flake? >> we're comfortable. >> are you going to compromise. >> come on guys, go. come on. >> can you not push me and push everybody else. >> yup, push it along. >> push it along. nothing to see here, even though we invited you here to watch us sit here in these chairs. we didn't want you to speak to us once we stopped talking. meanwhile, over at the white house the president spent his congressional orientation day meeting with liberals, true blue liberals, lots of them. unlike most of my adult life, the liberals weren't at the white house to protest outside. no, they were there to talk with the president of the united states at his invitation. several different labor unions, the liberal think tank and the center for budget and policy priorities and the commo
-- >> the fbi is looking into monticello e-mail. >> thomas jefferson, the randy bugger. >> by the way, heilemann is the national affairs writer for -- >> yes. >> this is going to be a long show. >> by the way -- >> growth industry. >> in the line of booty, "new york daily news." this thing's just getting a little weird. this lady right here gets the fbi to investigate. >> yeah. and what fbi agent does she go to? >> the guy who sent her the shirtless pictures. >> you know who i'm going to go to? i'm going to go first to the guy who sent me shirtless pictures. >> the lewis -- >> this guy sent me a shirtless picture, i'm going to go with him. we get a relationship, i'm sure it's platonic. >> i have no idea, seriously, the connection there, but thank you for -- >> he's classing the place up. >> don't forget she's an identical twin, at some point in this story, i'm sure we'll have a switcharoo. >> okay. >> so she goes to the fbi, and we find out -- threaten her life. threaten her life? no, the e-mails say, i know you were touching general petraeus under the table. >> inappropriately. >> inappropriate
as part of an fbi inquiry. >> i was shocked, i was surprised, a little bit in denial. didn't think it was true or even possible. i thought perhaps that, in fact, it had been somebody's attempt to try to bring him down, which has happened in the past. >> several law enforcement officials telling nbc news that the fbi inquiry began as an investigation into harassing and anonymous e-mails sent to a petraeus family friend, a florida woman named jill kelley. the source of those e-mails led them to the author of general's biographer, paula broadwell. correspondence between broadwell and petraeus displayed evidence on an extramarital affair. now leaders of congressional intelligence are demanding to know more about the fbi's scrutiny of the nation's top spy, especially its timing and why they were kept in the dark along with the rest of the nation. >> we received no advance notice. it was like a lightning bolt. the way i found out, i came back to washington thursday night. friday morning, the staff director told me there were a number of calls from press about this. i called david petraeu
>> late last night the fbi drops by the home of paula broadwell, the woma involved in the alleged affair with cia director david petraeus with agents carrying out boxes of material. now the top military commander in afghanistan is being investigated by the pentagon for having inappropriate communications with jill kelley, the woman who first blew the whistle on broadwell's threatening e-mails. oh, boy, here we go. good morning. i'm mika brzezinski, along with joe scarborough, this is "way too early," the show that receives on average about a dozen inappropriate communications from donny deutsch every day. >> every half hour. it's a long story. by the way, shirtless as well. we will talk about that. >> that's on a good day. thanks for being up with us. shoot us an e-mail or tweet u us and let us know why you're awake right now. or do what jill kelley's twin sister does and text the word awake followed by your response to 622639. we'll read the best responses later in the show. >> you kids make sure if your dad sends an e-mail, the shirt stays on. okay? seriously. i'm tired of looki
with the fbi and the cia. >> soup/sandwich? >> that's a good one. >> go rodeo. >> bye-bye. >> my favorite perhaps. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." but now -- >> "the rundown" with chuck todd. >> chuckles. >>> well, even more surprises this morning in the events that led to the resignation of cia director david petraeus. the fbi finds that marine general john allen, who was set to take over nato soon, exchanged thousands of pages of e-mails with the woman who says she was harassed by petraeus' mistre mistress. this is for real, folks. this is not a soap opera and we're just getting started. >>> back on capitol hill, questions keep growing about who knew what and when on the petraeus situation that now involved the cia, the fbi the pentagon, the white house, and congress. so much for nothing to distract from avoiding the fiscal cliff. >>> and recommend how president obama and mitt romney yukd yucked it up? the president had the last laugh. find out how he did it in today's deep dive. it's not how you think. good morning from washington. it's tuesday, november 13, 2012. this is "t
we're joined by senate finance committee chair, diane finestein, as new details about the fbi's investigation and key players emerge. >> we received no advanced notice. it was like a lightning bolt. the way i found out, i came back to washington thursday night. friday morning, the staff director told me there were a number of calls from press about this. i called david petraeus. >> some of petraeus' former military aides tell nbc news, they were uncomfortable with biographer paula broadwell's access to the general. >> i thought this was a little bit strange, that he would take someone who's never written a book and allow them such unfettered access and allow them to write what is really the first biography. >>> cliff talks. president obama reaches out to business and labor to rally support for his plan to raise taxes on the rich. are republicans and democrats any closer to making a deal? >> we've had votes in the senate where we've actually gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. and i think that the vast majority of americans agree with that. the question is, how d
about outstanding military leaders and overall questions about the fbi. >> the pentagon inspector general is now investigating now general john allen. top american commander in afghanistan. fbi has uncover between 20,000 and 30,000 documents. mostly e-mails sent between allen and this woman, jill kelley. a senior defense official tells msnbc that the e-mails were inappropriate. kelley was the target of paula broad we'll's e-mails. the associated press that broadwell thought of kelley as a romantic rival for petraeus affection. he was supposed to start the process this week to be the next commander of american forces in europe and supreme allied commander of nato, allen will remain commander in afghanistan. . >>> i don't even know where to begin. how does this happen? >> well, i don't know it happens. particularly in the digital age. the idea that people think that if you have thousands of e-mails that they're not going to be picked up and found out it's sort of amazing. what's most disturbing, this is a terrible time from a foreign policy standpoint to have petraeus out. scandals
and the impact it has on the country and overall questions about the fbi. >> the pentagon says it has uncovered 20 to 30,000 potentially inappropriate documents exchanged between general allen and kelley the woman's whose complaints first triggered the investigation that brought down petraeus. what about paula broadwell's role? late monday night with her consent federal agents served broadwell's home for hours, carting out boxes and bags as they are wrapping up their investigation. >> defense secretary leon panetta on route to australia was the first top administration official to comment on the petraeus departure. >> i think he took the right step, and i think it's important when you're director of the cia with all the challenges that face you, and have -- that personal integrity comes first and foremost. >> panetta a former cia director and the washington shuffle with panetta and clinton saying they want out of the second term. will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington
at the fbi to help launch an investigation. the e-mails, it is eventually discovered are being sent by broadwell. the fbi also discovers that broadwell and petraeus have been having an affair. meanwhile, the fbi agent who kelley approached grows frustrated after he's kept off the case. his supervisors reportedly are concerned that he has, quote, grown obsessed with the matter. it's also uncovered that he has sent shirtless photos of himself to kelley. that agent contacts republican congressman david reichert to air his frustrations. reichert then passes the information on to house majority leader eric cantor who speaks with the fbi whistle-blower in late october. it turns out that another major military figure, general john allen, the commander of u.s. and nato troops in afghanistan and petraeus' successor in that position, has been having an e-mail relationship with jill kelley. the fbi uncovers somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of documents that contain, quote, potentially inappropriate communication between allen and kelley, one senior u.s. defense official tells the "was
kelley you may recall is the same married mom of three, who set off the initial fbi investigation into paula broadwell. now e-mailses that multiple law enforcements tell abc were traced back to biographer paula broadwell. in yet another twist in this case, the fbi conducted a consensual search of broadwell's home last night. >>> meanwhile, an internal fbi inquiry has been launched into the agent who started the investigation and who tipped off republican members of congress about it, a senior government official telling nbc news, the agent sent shirtless photos to jill kelley prior to the investigation. now, as the inquiries into allen and petraeus move forward, congress is reconvening on capitol hill about the original fbi investigation. >> the elements on in some ways of a hollywood movie, once this investigation, whenever david petraeus's name came up, they had an only giggs to tell the president. >> the defense secretary leon panetta telling reporters that congressional intelligence leaders should have been notified and much sooner. >> i believe that there's a responsibility t
that high-level officials at the fbi and the justice department were notified in late summer that fbi agents had uncovered the affair that led to petraeus' downfall. it all started in early june when a florida woman named jill kelley pictures here with her husband, petraeus, and his wife, alerted agents to e-mails she described as e-mails. they told kelley, a petraeus family friend, to stop socializing with generals. those anonymous e-mails led investigators to paula broadwell and evidence of the affair. now some lawmakers are asking why the fbi didn't inform them or the white house sooner. >> we received no advance notice. it was like a lightning bolt. this is something that could have had an effect on national skur security. i think we should have been told. >> it seems this was going on for several months, and yet now it appear that is they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> adding to the headache and the controversy, petraeus was set to testify at a closed door hearing on the benghazi attack on thursday.
24 hours to think about it, and there was a lot involved. i think absent the fbi investigation which we are told by law enforcement officials are unlikely to lead to any criminal charges. it is an issue that has to be investigated because there's schur communications involved and there are classification rules. absent that investigation i'm not sure whether he could have soldiered through -- a pun i probably should not make -- and not have to resign. perhaps the president would not have accepted the resignation. dianne feinstein said today that she wished the president had not accepted the resignation. she very strongly believed that he was a key and essential piece of the national security community, and of this administration. i'm not sure whether the personal transgression although there's a code of honor and he felt strongly that he had frankly, screwed up, and that he had to pay the consequences, and after 24 hours, and clearly consulting his colleagues, other people in the national security community, don't know who else, the president agreed and accepted it on the phone in a c
that came to light after the fbi began investigating harassing e-mails sent to jill kelley, a socialite in tampa. the fbi found out it was broadwell sending those e-mails. according to the washington post, the e-mail described kelly as a -- i don't know why they do this. as a seductress. accused her of having a relationship with petraeus. for more on where things stand we're joined by chief white house correspondent -- mike isikoff, and of course we've got david corn, who's on the show now from mother jones. let me talk about this, first of all. i think it was interesting of the president to give almost a complete snow white description of this guy. he referred to the affair, which is the reason he's being removed from office, as a single side note.>> this guy get a single s no. >> just a pesky asterisk. but, you know, politicians and presidents for years in washington have been using david petraeus as cover. if you can get underneath -- >> republicans said that name over and over. >> wrap yourself in the petraeus flag and you got immunity from almost anything. >> what is president obam
david petraeus' admitted affair, the time line of the fbi investigation and when exactly the president was told about it. meanwhile, the white house says the president still has faith in general john allen. he, of course, is the current u.s. commander in afghanistan who is now under investigation by the pentagon's inspector general for what officials described as potentially inappropriate e-mails with one of the women directly involved in the case. nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more on this ever-widening story. >> reporter: the scandal involving two very different women, tampa socialite jill kelley and petraeus biographer paul broadwell ensnared not only petraeus but his successor. john allen who took over from petraeus in afghanistan and is the president's choice to be supreme allied commander of nato forces in europe, a nomination now temporarily on hold. >> sweetheart, thank you for all that you have done for me and for our precious -- >> reporter: the general is married with a sterling record but on a flight to australia monday night aides to defense
an fbi investigation that ended in general petraeus' abrupt resignation. it all started with complaints to the fbi about harassing e-mails sent from this woman, paula broadwell, to the another unnamed woman. petraeus was not the focus of investigators, but that led them to other e-mails between petraeus and broadwell which officials tell nbc news were indicative of an extramarital affair. the general admitted to an extramarital affair in his resignation letter. meanwhile we're now hearing from petraeus' former spokesperson. he talked to kristen welker. she's in washington with more. >> i interviewed steven boylan by phone saturday. he called petraeus a mentor and friend. boylan says he's stunned by the news about his former boss. in the meantime, new details are emerging about how this all came to light. according to multiple sources, the down fall of general david petraeus all started with a seemingly unrelated complaint to the fbi. officials say it was triggered by e-mails from paula broadwell to another woman not related to petraeus who felt she was being harassed and complained to t
to help military families through her own work. i wish them the very best." nbc news reported that the fbi is investigating the author of petraeus's biography for improper access to the general's e-mail. let's go back to our two guests tonight. congressman, what's your reaction to this news? >> first, very very sad. this is an extraordinary individual who has served in difficult circumstances as a general and leading the war in afghanistan and also in iraq. we just have to think good thoughts for him and his family going forward. obviously, he has resigned and it's a difficult situation. proving once again none of us are above making a mistake along the way. it's really a sad situation. >> congressman larson, does this complicate the president's upcoming cabinet shakeup? >> certainly, i agree with john and certainly i think the tone that the president set in his remarks are keeping with the spirit of a great american and someone who served their country extraordinarily well. you can only ache for the situation that's taken place. clearly let us hope also that with respect to the the presid
can tell, is the conditions which the fbi came to read the private e-mails of petraeus and broadwell. the investigation began because jill kelley, an acquaintance of petraeus served as the unpaid liaison in tampa received hostile e-mails that chastised her for flirting with petraeus. kelley complained to an fbi agent and somehow, an fbi investigation into cyber stalking was opened, one that led the fbi to read broadwell's e-mails, then petraeus' and here we are. cyber stalking investigations appear to be rare. thousands of women are cyber stalked every year. the recourse for them is often nothing, which is a problem. ten cases have been prosecuted. somehow in this case, because jill kelly knew a guy, an investigation got opened here. if the thing that decides whether a case is open is someone has an agent's business card, then we are in trouble. in the midst of this coverage, it's difficult to separate it from trivial and the relevant. as gripping as the tale is, it is almost entirely that, a human drama. people acting as people do. i'm reasonably sure, a sweep of e-mails opened at r
the days of j. edgar hoover and the fbi uncovering personal peck a dill ohs and using them for political game. now time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." have a great night. >>> tonight, america has a new biggest loser. move over, sarah palin, you are now no longer the vice presidential candidate that will never be president. >> i know the election was a long time ago. >> one full week since election day. >> i wanted to refresh everyone's memories. >> we made this campaign about big ideas and big issues. >> big issues. >> just wasn't enough at the end of the day. >> that lost. >> they lost. >> this was a real shellacking. >> losing never feels good. >> we were surprised at the outcome. >> what are the lessons for conservatives? >> the primary problem is an economic message. >> the problem is. >> a demographic problem. >> disrespecting women the last two years. >> we were surprised in the outcome. the president won the race, i congratulated him on the race. >> the republican party needs to get it together. >> the hard part is where you get there. >> congress retur
of u.s. and nato forces in afghanistan, general john allen, has also been investigated by the fbi after having exchange, according to a senior defense official, possibly thousands of potentially inappropriate e-mails with jill kelley, the 37-year-old social liaison at the heart of the scandal that led to general petraeus' resignation. house homeland security committee chair peter king had another term to describe the unfolding drama. >> it's really a great tragedy. general petraeus, one of our most distinguished generals and general allen, considered a super star in the military, did an outstanding job in afghanistan, was going to go to nato, it's just tragic. you're right, this has the elements in so ways of a hollywood movie or trashy novel. >> a brief primer on the characters until so-called trashy novel. allen who is married became ensnared in the investigation because of his e-mail correspondent spns with kelley who in may started receiving a series of what she considered to be harassing e-mails from petraeus biographer and fellow west point grad paula broadwell. the ensuing invest
. >> and are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes, absolutely. this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. there is a way to do it. >> and several top republicans are demanding petraeus come back to capitol hill this week to testify before congress over the attack on the american consulate in benghazi. >> i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi before, during and after the attack if general petraeus doesn't testify. so from my point of view, it's absolutely essential that he give testimony before the congress so we can figure out benghazi. >> let me bring in the editor in chief for "reason" magazine matt welch and jackie kucinich. we know the fbi was looking at all of this for a while. officials tell nbc news the investigation started this summer after another woman, jill kell kelley, described as a friend of david petraeus, told another person at the fbi that she's getting threatening e-mail. should the fbi have alerted someone in congress when they started this investigat
about the petraeus thing, how did the fbi, is the president pleased with, seems there's a little pattern here of it seems to take a while for certain information to get to the white house a little bit, how -- what is his reaction to that. so this is his first comments that we're going to hear since the whole david petraeus mess exploded. so obviously that's going to be some of the news. i can tell you the white house folks are not happy that half the press conference will not be about fiscal cliff since that is what is front and center, all these deadlines facing them. the irony is, be andrea, had they done the post-election press conference when traditionally held back in bush and clinton a couple days after the election, there wouldn't have been a question about david petraeus. >> if he had not -- if he held it in chicago the morning after traditionally when this is done. >> or even thursday. >> or even thursday u.s. exactly. >> although by thursday his national security team knew and was about to inform him about the petraeus possible resignation. >> all the reason they wanted to dela
's an fbi investigation ongoing and that will give us the definitive word on what transpired. but the current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. a copycat attack which were prompted of course by the video. >> senator, you said that two days before that, director petraeus said it was terrorism. why didn't ambassador rice call it terrorism two days later? >> because she could speak publicly only on unclassified speaking points. i have some concern with those speaking points. but let me correct one thing. >> right. but what are the concerns and why speak at all? in other words, why was there a reference to it being a terrorist attack taken out of the public talking points? >> that is something that we're going to find out. but it was. that's the point. now, with the allegation that the white house changed those talking points, that is false. there is only one thing that was changed, and i've checked into this. i believe it to be absolute fact. and that was the word" consulat
secretary leon panetta disclosed a dramatic turn in the petraeus case. fbi investigators had uncovered what the pentagon called potentially inappropriate communications between the general and jill kelley whom he and his wife got to know in tampa and were revealing between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of documents including e-mails over two years. officials say some were flirtatious, but the general strongly denies an improper relationship. the fbi discovered the e-mails during its investigation of kelley's e-mails, sparked by her complaints about anonymous threats which turned out to be from paula broadwell. they say they found no wrongdoing by general allen but turned the files over to the pentagon which monday ordered its inspector general to investigate. a social link between the two four-star generals, jill kelley who enjoyed socializing with the powerful in tampa while doing volunteer work for military families. she also gave people the impression she had some kind of state department status which officials say she does not. in fact, last weekend, she called police complaining about media
a connection between general allen and jill kelley, the florida woman who kicked off the original fbi investigation which revealed the affair between general petraeus and his biographer paula broadwell. the newest twist, nbc confirming that broadwell e-mailed general allen first from the handle kelley patrol warning him about jill kelley painting her negatively. "the wall street journal" reporting that she tried to stop the fbi investigation that she started. this is news that nbc has not yet confirmed, however, we have been able to confirm that kelley called police over the weekend claiming to be an honorary consul-general and citing diplomatic protection in an effort to get the media including nbc off of her property. >> i'm an honorary consul-general so i have inviolability so i should -- they should not be able to cross my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved, as well. >> video taken by nbc shows diplomatic plates on her car. south korean authorities say she is an honorary consul and the state department says it has no connection to kelley. >> i
happened in benghazi from representatives of the state department, national counterterrorism center, fbi, john mccain did not get any of the classified briefing, did not get any of that information or questions answered by any of those people because he skipped the briefing and instead went and yelled at tv cameras about how he couldn't get any information. and when a cnn producer had the good sense to ask senator mccain about why he was yelling about not getting information instead of attending the briefing on his committee where the information was being given out, then he just yelled some more. >> our ted barrett caught up with the senator earlier today and wanted to know why he didn't go to that briefing and to say the least, it did not go well. listen to what happened. >> because i have the right as a senator to have no comment and who the hell are you to tell me i can or not? i'm not giving you an answer. for the tenth time. >> who the hell are you? this is all going on while john mccain continues to try to make a case that this scandal that he can't get any information about, can'
pursuit. >>> welcome back, everybody. new developments in the fbi investigation that ended with the resignation of cia director david petraeus. first, new information about the fbi agent who has now been identified. nbc has confirmed he is frederick humphries who worked on the bomb squad case. after kelley received e-mails from four or five alias counties. the e-mails have been traced back to petraeus biography paula broadwell, who remains at her brother's home in washington, d.c. he still has not commented on the case. there are new details to talk about. joining me is michael isikoff. what more have we learned about why kelley was concerned enough that the e-mails be forwarded to the fbi? >> we have learned a little bit more about the e-mails. remember, the first one actually goes to general allen in afghanistan from an e-mail account identified as kell kellkelly pat trt kelly patrol talking about his upcoming meeting with jill kelley in tampa. and what was most concerning about the e-mails, we're told from kelley's perspective is they seem to know the comings and goings
was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula broadwell's home, the home she shares with her family. she had given them permission to go into the home. they took out boxes and apparently photo es. joining me now is jim frederick, editor at "time" magazine. i heard people joke about this and all the salacious titles. but at the heart of this are some serious and legitimate conce concerns. the president not making any huge pronouncements, but starting with general allen here, the e-mails were exchanged over a two-year span. his confirmation is being held up. that's a big deal. >> it's a huge deal. the story is changing by the hour. every hour there are new allegations as pertains to general allen. 20 to 30,000 pages worth of documents. first 30,000 e-mails. you think that's not the case because it would be mathematically impossible. but how much time is he spending as the commander of the war in afghanistan e-mailing this woman. that's one of the central issues to sort out is how distracted is this general fro
ayotte. and what's going on with the generals? leon panetta orders ethics review. the fbi agent, he's the guy who brought down the millennium bomber. >>> taking out the military leader of hamas and fire from the gaza strip. >> israel will continue to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> we'll talk to michael oren, israel's ambassador to the united states. >>> and president obama at this hour in staten island to hear from storm victims. >>> plus, say cheese. new members of congress pose for their class photo. perhaps the last time they'll look this happy. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in new york. as the nation learns about the key players and the controversy surrounding general david patreaus, successor at the cia on capitol hill briefing members of the house intelligence committee today. joining me now for our daily fix, chris cillizza managing editor of postpolitics.com, and kelly o'donnell and correspondent pete williams. pete, first to you. talk first about what is going on in the investigation? the fbi agent who was first only known as the person w
, however, say who may have been involved. what we also know from law enforcement officials is that the fbi is currently investigating paula who has written a become on general petraeus, a favorable account of general petraeus. she talks about having extensive access to the general. they've gone running together, according to her accounts, she's appeared many times on television programs, including on msnbc. the fbi investigation is focusing on whether she had improper access to general petraeus' e-mails and may potentially have looked at classified information. we have also been told that it doesn't appear that any charges are going to be filed. this doesn't appear that it's going to be some sort of imprisonment and that general petraeus himself is not being investigated in this. >> but we don't know if there's an investigation between the resignation and -- >> at this point we can't definitively talk about a connection between those two things. >> let me ask you, colonel jacobs, you've known general petraeus for years. what kind of person is he and what do you think this -- what it does t
to. >> mike barnicle, you are our crime correspondent. what's fbi director mueller saying this morning? this is, of course, the agent that began the cyber investigation that brought down general petraeus and is about to bring down the top general in afghanistan. he sent this picture to jill kelley who then decided to go to him later on to start a cyber investigation because a woman had sent her an e-mail that said nani, nani pooh-pooh. >> i think based on my knowledge of director mueller, he is probably looking at that picture and looking at the fact that that fbi agent cold called a republican congressman to report what was going on. >> just for the record, he sent this, he says, to doz dozens of people as a joke. >> that's supposed to make us feel better. >> i just said for the record. >> if anthony wiener had only come up with that excuse, he'd still be in congress right now. i tweeted that to all my followers. >> let's wait until all this cools off. they have the ongoing investigation, a month or two down the road. >> yeah. >> let's reassign this agent to, you know, an
of the timing of all of this? >> i don't see anything untoward about this. i think the fbi investigated as quickly as they could. i think as soon as they found something out, they talked to him. there was a bit of a delay in notifying the president. but that's something else altogether. you were asking about gen ben ghazi, do you want to talk benghazi? >> yeah. >> you've been on the ground. you know, you know what it's like to be on the ground when your intelligence is no good, i think from a military standpoint, i don't think it made any sense whatsoever to send a quick reaction force, which would neither be quick, nor would it necessarily be able to react to what was on the ground. by that time, anyway, ambassador stevens was dead. >> let's talk about from a personal standpoint. i know that you have known david petraeus and his wife, holly, for about the same length of time that they've known each other. tell me their story. >> david petraeus was a cadet at west point from '71-'75. i taught there from '73-'76. so we overlapped. holly petraeus, met him there. and why? because her fathe
and is under investigation by the fbi. it's also parts of a broader investigation by the accountability review board set up by the secretary of state. those two investigations continue. no one is more interested in getting to the bottom of what happened than the president is. no one is more interested in bringing to justice those who took the lives of four americans that night than the president. the president is very interested in having the results of those investigations provided to him and the american public. >> it's going to talk about the president's role -- >> we're listening in on the daily briefing. jay carney is answering a series of question on the president and obviously the fiscal cliff as it's referred to and where he stands on a number of issues and took a few questions on the investigation, ongoing investigation of what happened in benghazi. i want to bring in congressman karen bass from california. let me talk with you about the climate. speaker boehner seemed a bit more willing to at least discuss and put things on the table that maybe were not there before, specifically tax
ago, while the fbi investigation was going on, both general petraeus and cia director and general allen and as commander of u.s. forces in afghanistan, within two days of each other, write letters vouching for the sister of jill kelley saying she deserves more time with her son. a judge had placed very strict limits on her visitation with her own son after awarding custody to her ex-husband. the judge had found -- the judge had found, and i quote, that jill kelley's sister has extreme personal deficits in the areas of honesty and integrity. that was in a court ruling in november of 2011. and then in september of 2012 the director of the cia is writing a letter vouching for -- >> so, the judge has this assessment of jill's -- >> jill kelley's sister. >> right, right. >> and then general petraeus, as districter of the cia and general allen both wrote letters this past september on behalf of this sister as a favor to jill kelley? >> well, we can presume as a favor to jill kelley, general petraeus, then-cia director petraeus referenced spending time with the sister and her son, young
's the surveillance state aspect of it. why was the fbi raiding his e-mail and what is the threshold for that? then i think the way in which the mythology that david petraeus cultivated around himself. it was a combination of performance in the battled field, i'm not the best judge of this, substantively quite good along with a savvy way of getting the press to go along with the story he was telling about david petraeus. one of the things we're seeing in the context of this decade is the military is the most trusted institution in american life. part of that has to do with the military divide, tom ricks was saying 1% of the people population fight all of the wars, 80% when you don't count family members, don't care. a lot of it is not registering in the american public's mind. when that detachment happens, the distance allows us from a safe move to say i trust the military. the people who are in the military have extremely complicated questions about whether or not to trust the military because people who are in any institution, public school teachers have complicated feelings about the public school
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